What is the most common dovetail ratio?

Dovetail angles are usually expressed as ratios — the most common being 1:6 and 1:8 (said “one in eight,” and also written as 6:1 or 8:1). As a general rule of thumb: Use 1:6 for softwoods. Use 1:8 for hardwoods.

What is the best ratio for dovetails?

With regard to what to use, a common recommendation is 1:8 for hardwoods and 1:6 for softwoods. These recommendations are based on some arguments related to strength. However, people use a lot of different ratios depending on application and aesthetics.

What is the standard for a dovetail?

We recommend dovetail width should not be less than 75% of the width of the stock. This is a general ratio, not a rule. If in doubt, stick to 75%. Dovetail width should be narrow enough to support the part after material is removed.

What ratio is a 14 degree dovetail?

This 14° marker equates to a ratio of 1:4. When used with thinner stock, the 14° angle results in a better looking joint. This different angle also gives you a slightly stronger dovetail interlock on the thinner material.

What is the most common dovetail angle?

Lower (7° to 9°) angles are often advised for joining hardwoods, while higher angles (10° to 14°) are recommended for softwoods and even higher angles (14° to 18°) for half-blind dovetails.

What are the proportions for a dovetail joint?

The only consistent advice I find is keep dovetail length about equal to board thickness. And keep dovetail ratios between 1:6 and 1:8.

What is a 1 to 6 dovetail?

A 1:6 ratio – that’s one unit horizontal with six matching units drawn vertical – lays out as a 9.5 degree angle.

Is 11mm dovetail the same as 3 8?

The 3/8 Inch is measured across the bottom of the dovetail whereas the 11 mm is measured across the top of the dovetail. A 3/8 Inch dovetail is about 12.7 mm across the top. The measurements 3/8 and 11mm are not the same for this reason plus the angles are different.

What are the common dovetail sizes?

Dovetails come in several different types and sizes depending on manufacturer, but the most common are the 11 mm and 3⁄8 inch (9.5 mm). Some other less known, but currently commercially available dovetail mounts, are 12, 13, 13.5, 14, 14.5, 16, 16.5, 17 and 19 mm.

How deep should a dovetail joint be?

Typically we use 1 ½” – 2” deep dovetails that are about 2” less deep than the joist, and 4” less deep than the girt – but that is just a starting point – the loads and reactions have to be calculated from there.

What is the ratio of tail to pin in a dovetail joint?

The line between that end point and starting point will be the angle of your tail and pin sides. 6:1 (9.5°) and 8:1 (7.1°) dovetail ratios are the most common (though you’ll often see 4:1 and 10:1 as well).

Which is better English or French dovetail?

While both English and French dovetail construction are very sturdy and high quality, English dovetail construction is slightly sturdier with the trade-off of being more expensive and time-consuming to produce.

What are the weaknesses of dovetail?

The disadvantages of dovetail joints are that they can be fairly difficult to mark out and cut, and if they are made badly these joints lose the advantages listed above. Depending on the project, function, and design, there are a number of different types of dovetail joints to choose from.

What is English dovetail?

English dovetails are the most common. They have interlocking joints and allow the most amount of space – usually several more inches of room than you would get with French dovetails. This is because the dovetail groove cannot be put all the way at the edge of a drawer with French dovetails.

Are 3 8 and 11mm dovetail the same?

The 3/8 Inch is measured across the bottom of the dovetail whereas the 11 mm is measured across the top of the dovetail. A 3/8 Inch dovetail is about 12.7 mm across the top. The measurements 3/8 and 11mm are not the same for this reason plus the angles are different.

What is the ratio of tail to pin in a dovetail joint?

The line between that end point and starting point will be the angle of your tail and pin sides. 6:1 (9.5°) and 8:1 (7.1°) dovetail ratios are the most common (though you’ll often see 4:1 and 10:1 as well).

What is the formula for measuring dovetails?

To obtain dimension x for measuring male dovetails, add 1 to the cotangent of one-half the dovetail angle α, multiply by diameter D of the rods used, and add the product to dimension α.

What makes a dovetail joint so strong?

The dovetail joint is very strong because of the way the ‘tails’ and ‘pins’ are shaped. This makes it difficult to pull the joint apart and virtually impossible when glue is added.

Is a finger joint stronger than a dovetail joint?

It depends on the application. For box joint, some people put a lot more fingers than it is possible to do with Dovetail. In this case, the gluing surface is larger, and the joint is likely stronger.

Which part of a dovetail do you cut first?

Cutting the dovetail pins first makes sense. It’s easier to hold the pin board in place to mark the tails than it is to hold the tail board against the end of what will be the pin board. Also, the walls of the pins provide a good surface for the awl as you mark the tails.1 Feb 1996

What is the angle of a 7 1 dovetail?

My go-to angle for through dovetails in most hardwoods is 7:1 (8.1°), such as for a carcase or box in cherry, maple, or walnut with stock thickness of 9/16″-13/16″. It has enough angle to form a strong mechanical lock but not too much to produce fragile tail corners or overly fussy fitting.

What is a simple dovetail joint?

The simple dovetail neck joint is a timeless design that consists of a dovetail-shaped projection on the neck fitting into a corresponding recess in the guitar body. This joint provides a secure connection, facilitating good tonal transfer between the neck and body.

Will 3 8 dovetail fit Picatinny rail?

3/8 Dovetail to Picatinny Adapter Rail -Short adaptor Rail attaches to 3/8 Dovetail rails and converts it to Picatinny Rail for mounting Red Dot optics with Weaver/Picatinny type rings and mounts.

Are weaver and dovetail the same?

Also called a “tip off” mount, the dovetail rail allows the shooter to easily remove and replace mounted optics. Although dovetail rails come in a variety of sizes, the most common are 11mm and 3⁄8 inch (9.5 mm). Developed by William Ralph Weaver, the Weaver rail was created in an attempt to standardize scope mounts.

What is a 3 8 dovetail?

3/8″ dovetail rails, sometimes call tip off rails, consist of two thin parallel grooves and are used almost exclusively on rimfire rifles and air rifles. 3/8″ dovetail rails are a common, standardized style within the rimfire industry and are inexpensive to machine into the firearm’s frame.

Are dovetail joints difficult?

It’s true that dovetail is hard to make, but all it takes is a couple of stabs at the joint and even a novice will be happy about the results.

Mike Walker

Repair and Construction Expert. WoodiesDIY.tv Owner